Ok, probably no one will read this, but just for the record, Duke Nukem Forever is somewhere between good and great by my standards. I see alot of people complaining about graphics and gameplay mechanics and I understand them, I do, but this game was obviously made for the people who waited for it so long and it's oldschool in a good way... Well, at least for older gamers. If you're bothered by the graphics so much play Duke Nukem 3D and then DNF, you'll see the difference. Anyway, a nice, nice game.